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The concept of the Journal has been around us here Widget Geeks for quite some time. When this project first began four years ago, myself and the original Mac engineer would post our progress on what was at the time a total mystery project. We’d tease folks with bits and pieces of information to whet their appetites for the cool application that was on its way.

It wasn’t a blog, as they’re called these days, it was a simple PHP script that I’d written that looked in a folder on my home web server and parsed anything that was a text file as an entry and filled it in with the author based on who owned the permission and when the file was created. Why… I almost feel like I need to say in a cranky old man’s voice “when I was your age we didn’t have any fancy blog software, all we had was a folder full of text files with UNIX permissions set and mod dates written…”… alright… never mind.

When we were absorbed into the fold by Yahoo!, the journal (which by then was just looking up data from our forums) went away. Not for any reason other than it was such a hack, it just had to go.

So here it is again. It’s back… this time as a WordPress blog.

Contributing to it will be myself, Arlo Rose… the inventor of the Widget concept that’s being so widely used by just about everyone these days, Ed Voas, lead engineer and architect for the Yahoo! Widget platform and all-around genius engineer, and Rob Marquardt, who owns a spoon.

A lot has changed since the early days of the journal I’d started. This site isn’t hosted on a Mac in my office, it’s on a farm of many distributed servers. I’m no longer spending 200% of my time hacking on Widgets, in fact, I’m not even officially part of the Widget team any more (though I still work on the project despite what my job description dictates). Our original Mac engineer has moved on from the project and from Yahoo!, and the team isn’t just two guys working to make ends meet, it’s a team that consists of Widget builders, engineers, product managers, product architects, and a poster of Shakira (since she turned down actually being a member of the team). We’ve come a long way.

So welcome to the new Widgets Blog, and watch for cool happenings, teasers of things to come, technical posts, design rants, and just about anything else we can think of that seems remotely related to what we do at Yahoo!.



38 Comments

bjbk - August 9th, 2006 at 8:27 pm

Should be good to hear whats happening behind the scenes!

Arlo, can you tell us what does your job description does infact dictate?


Arlo - August 9th, 2006 at 8:50 pm

I oversee the creative and feature direction for all of a group called Connected Life. So it’s basically all of Yahoo!’s non-web products, the exceptions being Messenger and Yahoo Music Engine, and on the web side the exception is or broadband and broadband portal projects.

I don’t have the involvement I probably should with some of these groups because I keep getting too focused on individual projects.

I have some influence over the Messenger team… but not as much as I’d like just yet. ;-)


pepto - August 10th, 2006 at 9:19 am

Great to see the journal back… sad to see Perry leave though… Rock on… :-)


jonathan - August 10th, 2006 at 11:39 am

Wow, the Widgets team sounds gi-normous! ;-)


Arlo - August 10th, 2006 at 12:10 pm

It’s all smoke and mirrors… turn everything plural and suddenly the five people that make up the team seem like 20. :P


Linda (aka Joanie) - August 10th, 2006 at 1:08 pm

Well, don’t forget the folks that move the smoke & mirrors.. the one’s no one sees!

;)


Meskibob - August 12th, 2006 at 7:39 am

Any chance of seeing Rob’s famous spoon?


DRusse11 - August 12th, 2006 at 6:15 pm

When It comes to the creation of new widgets do you and your team actually spend some time on creating this widgets or do you now leave it up to the general public?


Arlo - August 13th, 2006 at 1:39 am

We create our own. Every Widget that ships in the engine is created by myself, and more recently Rob.


jay - August 14th, 2006 at 6:03 pm

first of all you’re doing a great job!
i don’t know if this is the right place for that, but i guess a lot of people would be happy if there was a Gmail widget that ships with the engine. there are really no good gmail widgets for pc.


monolistic - August 14th, 2006 at 6:19 pm

So are you gunna let us know all the new (and hopefully cool) features coming in the next Y!WE release? Come on you know you want to :P


the_doctor - August 14th, 2006 at 8:04 pm

Posters? Spoons? We need a blog entry with pics of the office … and the spoon … and the poster.

You should really be like Apple and have HUGE widgets cut out and hanging all over the place.


Ed - August 14th, 2006 at 8:43 pm

Rob’s spoon can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/67832455@N00/118926520/


drusse11 - August 15th, 2006 at 8:49 pm

What of the chances of having a section either here in the blog or in the forums of suggestions for adding features to the website? I don’t know if you guys have any control over it or not but it sure would be nice to have a spot where users can add suggestions. I have noticed that there are ideas for added features (like a most popular or favorited section) all over the place in the forums, and since I have seen you guys all over the forums Im sure you have seen it also. Just a suggestion.


jay - August 16th, 2006 at 3:06 pm

also we all need to get our hands on that WYSIWYG widget builder… since apple has released one in the new leopard… you gotta keep up with it guys!


A Widget Builder - August 20th, 2006 at 2:52 am

My widget page has become over-run with non-relevant garbage.
There are some very rude people out there.

I think that widget builders should have access to their widget page to be able to delete nasty entries. If you guys already moderate these pages then you have fallen way behind, cause my page is a mess. Help.


Arlo - August 20th, 2006 at 11:45 am

Mr/Ms Builder… this isn’t the right venue for this kind of comment. Even less so if you don’t tell us which Widget needs the attention.

Please use the support link above or post in our forums. Either way, reference which Widget needs the cleanup.

As for allowing authors to moderate their own comments, that will never happen. Too many would just delete any negative comment and rating for the sake of driving their ratings up.


kim - August 20th, 2006 at 3:34 pm

i heard a rumor from some yahoo friends of mine that ed v. was leaving. i hope that isn’t true. love all the widgets. big fan!


Arlo - August 20th, 2006 at 4:14 pm

They must be very poorly connected Yahoos.


Jim - August 20th, 2006 at 8:42 pm

Where is the RSS feed for this blog? Come on guys.


Arlo - August 20th, 2006 at 8:48 pm

Until we push an update to the template (sometime this week), it’s where every other WordPress feed lives.

http://widgets.yahoo.net/blog/?feed=rss

or

http://widgets.yahoo.net/blog/?feed=atom


marc - August 21st, 2006 at 4:00 pm

Windows and MacOS.. what about Linux ? :o )


the_doctor - August 22nd, 2006 at 7:06 am

Maybe when Ubuntu takes over and all the other many distros fall in the way background … that way they only have to code for one flavor. I wouldn’t want to develop for the many different ways you can code for Linux to satisfy everyone.


monolistic - August 23rd, 2006 at 5:15 am

How often are you planning on updating this blog? It’s been about a month now since you last posted.


Arlo - August 23rd, 2006 at 11:31 am

I bug Rob and Ed every day to a make a new post…


avinash - August 23rd, 2006 at 11:14 pm

i think it is a great work. well only java need to make a widget?


avinash - August 23rd, 2006 at 11:15 pm

if i want to make my own widget then what i need to learn? i mean only java or any other language also?


monolistic - August 23rd, 2006 at 11:58 pm

@avinash:
http://widgets.yahoo.com/workshop/ - resources and explanations of the widget system/coding.


avinash - August 25th, 2006 at 12:38 am

ya i know this thing but i am not saying for widget tools. i am just asking that if i know only java and c language then can i make my own widget in by these languages


davim - September 25th, 2006 at 2:04 pm

Linux users check this out http://www.kryogenix.org/code/jackfield/

Jackfield is an application for the Gnome desktop that plays host to widgets; small applications to do the things you need. It can run widgets from Apple’s Dashboard, will eventually be able to run those from Yahoo’s Widget Engine, Microsoft’s Gadget Sidebar, and Opera Widgets, and you can write your own.


Katie - September 27th, 2006 at 4:16 pm

I think its awesome work! :3


Katlyn - September 28th, 2006 at 5:23 pm

hey i just got on this wigets thing so can anyone help me out?


Katlyn - September 28th, 2006 at 5:24 pm

but i’m not new with yahoo avatars. but just tell me some stuff and maybe i’ll get to know all about widgets…


Sky Adams - December 15th, 2006 at 5:02 am

When will I can get the widget for Yahoo Messenger..?


Ed - December 16th, 2006 at 11:34 pm

That is a good question. Sadly, I don’t have an answer.


Toughskinn - January 14th, 2007 at 12:47 pm

Widget for PDA…Palm, Pocket PC, etc., would b FANTASTIC!!!


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Vb - June 4th, 2007 at 1:34 am

How to create a Widget(tm)? I know there’s a tutorial, but where to create it? What program?



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